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According to the NPD Group, Modern Warfare 2 sold approximately 4.2 million units for the Xbox 360 and 1.87 million units for the PlayStation 3 in the U.S. during the month of November 2009. preliminary sales figures from Activision, Modern Warfare 2 sold approximately 4.7 million units in both the United States and the UK in the first 24 hours of its release. On March 8 2010, Robert Bowling announced that the game had amassed 25 million unique players. In Japan, Modern Warfare 2 sold 64,000 copies for the Playstation 3 and 42,000 copies for the Xbox 360 in its first week of sales. The game later sold 117,000 copies on the Playstation 3 and 61,000 on the Xbox 360. Anita Frazer of the NPD Group reported in March 2010 that the game had sold slightly under 10 million copies in the U.S. alone.

This goes on and on. But either way the PS3 ( despite a lower installed base ) outstripped the software sales of the Xbox 360 in the fiscal-2009 year by 12.5 million. Also regarding the April NPD data. Apparently the PS3 “continues to be the only hardware console to see double digit growth both year over year (42.6%) and year to date (37.2%) Having just surpassed nine consecutive months of year over year growth for PS3 hardware and a revenue increase of 32% for PS3 software since last April.

This shows console sold figures ( or shipped in MS case ) means nothing when you look at hardware growth, which the PS3 is doing better in.

LBDz also commented

  • @ xbotman

    But people still have the consoles to watch Blu-Ray movies or to play games ? So why subtract millions.? If you look at failure rates 360 was at one time over 50%, while PS3 was only 10%.

    So if you really want to subtract numbers, take 50% off the 360 shipped figures, which leaves = 20 million, now take 10% off the PS3 sold figures which would then leaves over = 32 million.

    Even if you had half of the 50% failure rates of the 360 repaired you will still only have 30 million in total.

    But we all know figures don’t mean quality and fact is that PS3 has the better quality out the two consoles.

    I myself have bought Two 360′s in 4 years, but had to send them off 7 times in total to be repaired. RROD = 5 times E-74 Error = 1 time, Disc Drive Failure = 1 time. ( One console didn’t get repaired as the Disc Drive Failure wasn’t covered under the 3 year ex-warranty, I have Two PS3′s 1st edition and a 250 PS3 Slim model. Not once have i had any problems with them.

  • At E3 in May 2006, Bill Gates announced that Microsoft would have a head start of 10 million units by the time Sony and Nintendo entered the market. Microsoft later specified that goal and estimated shipments of 10 million units by the end of 2006.

    The Xbox 360 was released on November 22, 2005, in the United States and Canada; December 2, 2005, in Europe.

    The PlayStation 3 was first released on November 11, 2006 in Japan,November 17, 2006 in North America and South America,and March 23, 2007 in Europe.

    So the 360 had a 10 million head start over PS3, yet now theres only 4 million difference in console sales. Which shows that PS3 has out sold the 360 ( in the same time span ).

    360 = 40 million (as of April 23, 2010)
    PS3 = 35.7 million (as of March 31, 2010)

    Now take away the banned 360 consoles ( over 1 million banned and not able to go online ) that people traded in to shops so that they could buy new consoles to be able to play online again. Also take away the 360′s that RROD’ed on people BEFORE MS gave a 3 year warranty, which was also over 1 million in it’s 1st year of release. Plus take in consideration people that had the RROD after the 3 year warranty run out that had to re-buy a 360 console. Or the people that had a faulty Disc Drive that wasn’t given an extended warranty making them re-buy another console.Or better still the people that had their console repaired by MS due to RROD, and knowing that it will RROD again so they started trading them consoles in for a newer one.

    I still say that more people own a PS3 in their home right now than the 360.

  • @ Death2494

    Thanks for seeing it my way. ;o)

    Also to Pete, if you see past the Fanboi BS you’ll see everything i said is true.? I own all consoles, but the facts remain. If 360 didn’t suffer with RROD or E 74 Error they would not have sold the amount of consoles shown today. Or if MS didn’t ban consoles from playing online, they would not have sold more consoles due to it would they. Now really this shows that PS3 has the bigger in home base compared to 360. >?

    Also despite a lower installed base, software sales on the PS3 have outstripped that of the Xbox 360 in the fiscal-2009 year. The PlayStation 3 enjoyed 115.6 million software sales in the Sony’s 2009-fiscal year (runs from May 1st 2009 to April 30th 2010), this performance was better than that of the Xbox 360, which achieved 103.1 million software sales. This may look like Fanboi talk, but it’s fact, NOT fanboi BS.?

    http://www.playstationuniversity.com/ps3-software-sales-outstrip-xbox-360s-ps3-attach-rate-up-to-8-1-3807/

  • I think that MS numbers don’t mean anything really. Look at it this way.

    MS have banned over 1 million consoles from going online. The people that owned these consoles traded them in and bought new 360 consoles. MS consoles have had a really bad failure figure with RROD and now the E74 error. Look at how many consoles suffered with RROD BEFORE the 3 year warranty was passed. Then look at how many people RE-BOUGHT a console because of their 360 console getting RROD.

    Even with the warranty people still bought a new consoles because of RROD. People even go on to say that once MS repaired their 360 console it wasn’t long before it went wrong again. so they traded that console in to the shops, so they could buy a new 360 console.

    This shows that even though MS has the bigger SHIPPED figures PS3 is in more peoples homes than 360. So really Sony has won this war now. PS3 has more consoles in the home than Microsoft, due to the bad design and bans taking place on the 360.

    And now the PS Move is coming out, that alone will draw in the Wii owners and now they could play not just casual games, but the Hardcore games they wanted. Things will only get bigger and better for PS3.

Recent comments by LBDz

  • PS3 software sales outstrip Xbox 360′s: PS3 attach rate up to 8.1
    yep i agree. MS can make more, but they know not too.
  • PS3 software sales outstrip Xbox 360′s: PS3 attach rate up to 8.1
    Halo series is NOT being continued after Halo Reach. This has been confirmed by Bungie themselves. They are now glad to be FREE to make games and create new IP’s without MS being involved. Reason is simple, Bungie now own their rites and decide what console to release their games on. EA will not interfere in this department which is why Bungie went with EA in the first place.
  • PS3 software sales outstrip Xbox 360′s: PS3 attach rate up to 8.1
    People talk about how good Halo sold and how bad GT5 will not sell, BUT what people have to remember is Gran Turismo sold over 53 million units worldwide for the PS2 and PS3. Thats without the PSP sales. Now that is more than the total Halo series, which sold over 27 million copies worldwide. And after Halo Reach the Halo series is DEAD. If it was that good, why let it Die ?

    Now Bungie have got a new IP coming to BOTH consoles, and guess what, they said ” it will be bigger and better than the Halo series “. Bungie spent two years developing an entirely new game that will be released sometime after its “Halo” finale, “Halo: Reach” on BOTH PS3 and 360.

    “The partnership between Bungie and Activision is a big win for gamers worldwide. Combining Bungie’s creativity with the incredible power of PlayStation 3 will add serious muscle to action gaming. We look forward to extending Bungie’s ‘next big action game universe’ with PS3 users.”

    As this generation of consoles continues developers are starting to pick the PlayStation 3 as their development console of choice. This alone should tell people that Dev’s are unlocking the secrets of the PS3, which makes games better on that console than 360. Just look at the exclusive games on both consoles to see this. Theres no hiding that fact.

    So no matter what 360 fanboi’s say about the GT series, Halo is a dead series once Halo Reach gets released, and will NEVER out sell the GT series.

  • PS3 software sales outstrip Xbox 360′s: PS3 attach rate up to 8.1
    @Tom Ato

    okay, I couldn’t agree with you more. PS3 is selling more software, it’s software is simply far, far better than 360′s. With PS3 exclusives pushing the graphics and quality bars higher with each new release the 360 is going to be lucky if it finishes 3rd this generation. Even after all this time MS has NOT given a game ( graphically ) that can make us go WOW. Where Sony and their PS3 has given us this many many times.

    GT5 once released will sell more than 5 million. People that think this wouldn’t happen are hiding their head in the sand.

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  • TRF

    Damn, gap’s really closing.

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  • LBDz

    I think that MS numbers don’t mean anything really. Look at it this way.

    MS have banned over 1 million consoles from going online. The people that owned these consoles traded them in and bought new 360 consoles. MS consoles have had a really bad failure figure with RROD and now the E74 error. Look at how many consoles suffered with RROD BEFORE the 3 year warranty was passed. Then look at how many people RE-BOUGHT a console because of their 360 console getting RROD.

    Even with the warranty people still bought a new consoles because of RROD. People even go on to say that once MS repaired their 360 console it wasn’t long before it went wrong again. so they traded that console in to the shops, so they could buy a new 360 console.

    This shows that even though MS has the bigger SHIPPED figures PS3 is in more peoples homes than 360. So really Sony has won this war now. PS3 has more consoles in the home than Microsoft, due to the bad design and bans taking place on the 360.

    And now the PS Move is coming out, that alone will draw in the Wii owners and now they could play not just casual games, but the Hardcore games they wanted. Things will only get bigger and better for PS3.

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  • WitWolfyZA

    I agree. i give it till christmas…. then we’ll see the 360 fall to 3rd place

  • juuken

    Sony’s on fire. I think that lead is going to drop further when GT5 comes out. That game is a monster.

  • jukins

    with this news i expect a price drop from microsoft sooner than later. talk about a comeback. few years ago i was ALMOST regretting my ps3 purchase.

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  • Pete

    I love LBDz’s reply. Kind of funny how the f***ing fanboys come out of their closets to toot Sony’s horn any chance they get. Odd how he mentions the Move but not NATAL. I guess when your head is so far up the corporate ass it’s hard to see anything else.

    Play games, not systems. The PS3 rocks, the XBOX360 rocks and the Wii rocks. It’s to bad fanboys just suck c***s.

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  • Patrick Steen

    Pete, we appreciate your contribution, but please keep your bad language to a minimum. Thanks.

  • Death2494

    @Pete
    He’s just saying look at some of the trick Microsoft is doing to keep that lead over ps3. Two days before one of the biggest games of the year drops, you decide to ban 1 million consoles online feature. Think about they didn’t kill the gamertags, they just banned the consoles. This means they knew they were modded 360 but they chose to wait when a big game is released to do it. Don’t get me wrong though, strategically, it’s a great move. Also they have the highest failure rate out of all three consoles. It’s confirmed that Sony has overtaken Microsoft in Europe, which is what mattered really. Sony has Japan and Microsoft has America. Sony now holds both Japan and Europe over Microsoft ,who only has America. Now it’s just a matter of time ,because the lead can only get smaller from here.

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  • S. Bains

    Hats off to Microsoft, it was good run to get out there first … Albeit with a shoddy design that sounds like a vacuum cleaner and dies with the RROD. But hey you have Aaron Fatberg as a marketing guy !!! hehe

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  • LBDz

    @ Death2494

    Thanks for seeing it my way. ;o)

    Also to Pete, if you see past the Fanboi BS you’ll see everything i said is true.? I own all consoles, but the facts remain. If 360 didn’t suffer with RROD or E 74 Error they would not have sold the amount of consoles shown today. Or if MS didn’t ban consoles from playing online, they would not have sold more consoles due to it would they. Now really this shows that PS3 has the bigger in home base compared to 360. >?

    Also despite a lower installed base, software sales on the PS3 have outstripped that of the Xbox 360 in the fiscal-2009 year. The PlayStation 3 enjoyed 115.6 million software sales in the Sony’s 2009-fiscal year (runs from May 1st 2009 to April 30th 2010), this performance was better than that of the Xbox 360, which achieved 103.1 million software sales. This may look like Fanboi talk, but it’s fact, NOT fanboi BS.?

    http://www.playstationuniversity.com/ps3-software-sales-outstrip-xbox-360s-ps3-attach-rate-up-to-8-1-3807/

  • The Truth

    “MS have banned over 1 million consoles from going online. The people that owned these consoles traded them in and bought new 360 consoles.”

    lol wut??

  • taus90

    Little Big Planet 2 and GT5 is going to sky rocket their sales. Then games like The Last Gaurdian and Final Fantasy Versus XIII are going to come around and boost it even more, just using those games as examples, but very good examples in my opinion.

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  • ImLastBoss

    @11 M$ banned around 1 million xbox 360s when holiday 2009 and people needed to get new consoles to modd my bro’s 360 was banned also and he just use that to play burnt games while he bought another one to play legit copy online.That’s why there’re rumours abot the Xbox slim because M$ is nervous and afraid of the PS3 slim’s momentum.

  • Pete

    The XBOX360 sales for MW2 surpass 10.5 million. On the contrary it sold over 7.5 million on the Playstation3. This is also the number one selling game on each platform.

    This is why it’s so laughable at all the hate and fanboy rejects who post on forums before they do their schoolwork. M$ banned consoles, not games. So even with all the failure rates and banned consoles the fact remains and that is there are lots of people buying the system and the software.

    Also that source of LBDZ’s shows what I’ve been saying all along. Both systems rock. In fact all 3 systems do. So why do we have so many nerds like him saying Sony has won and on and on it goes. That article even shows the attach rate to be higher on the XBOX360. So stop being an ignoramous and enjoy the games.

  • Deathslizer

    @Pete I dont see what the sale of Mw2 has to do with having more consoles sold .. all that proves is that the 360 fanbase are more comprised of fragheads .. i could easily quote the sale of Final Fantasy XIII on the ps3 which sold more than the 360 version but that wouldnt prove jack eitherway . The only ones who are the ignoramous are the ones who keep a blind eye to how screwed up the 360 hardware is , im not gonna lie i own 3 consoles and i love the 360 but i still hate the flaws it still has even after 5 years mind you still have not been resolved .. disc scratching , rrod still occurs . And one cannot enjoy a game when a console is dead .

  • Epsilonttb

    The 4.5 million gap is impressive seeing that PS3 has been on the market a year less than Xbox360 and is showing that $300 is the magic price for a HD console. Sony needs to keep strong exclusive new IPs like Heavy Rain coming if they want to break the gap. I still wonder if the Wii sales will ever be taken down by Sony or MS though. Nintendo’s Wii sales are impressive just because they hardly have any decent third party support, but stay above everyone else from strong innovative first party games. All in all, it’s a great time to be a gamer in this console race no matter which side your on.

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  • grabiel amador

    technicully ps3 has outsold 360 because if you think of it 360 sod around 4 to 5 million consoles so its basically already a tie

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  • LBDz

    According to the NPD Group, Modern Warfare 2 sold approximately 4.2 million units for the Xbox 360 and 1.87 million units for the PlayStation 3 in the U.S. during the month of November 2009. preliminary sales figures from Activision, Modern Warfare 2 sold approximately 4.7 million units in both the United States and the UK in the first 24 hours of its release. On March 8 2010, Robert Bowling announced that the game had amassed 25 million unique players. In Japan, Modern Warfare 2 sold 64,000 copies for the Playstation 3 and 42,000 copies for the Xbox 360 in its first week of sales. The game later sold 117,000 copies on the Playstation 3 and 61,000 on the Xbox 360. Anita Frazer of the NPD Group reported in March 2010 that the game had sold slightly under 10 million copies in the U.S. alone.

    This goes on and on. But either way the PS3 ( despite a lower installed base ) outstripped the software sales of the Xbox 360 in the fiscal-2009 year by 12.5 million. Also regarding the April NPD data. Apparently the PS3 “continues to be the only hardware console to see double digit growth both year over year (42.6%) and year to date (37.2%) Having just surpassed nine consecutive months of year over year growth for PS3 hardware and a revenue increase of 32% for PS3 software since last April.

    This shows console sold figures ( or shipped in MS case ) means nothing when you look at hardware growth, which the PS3 is doing better in.

  • Dr. Moogle

    oh wow…not bad at all, sony!

    theyll surely catch up in due time….. by 2011 right? or am i still terrible at guessing -_-

  • LBDz

    At E3 in May 2006, Bill Gates announced that Microsoft would have a head start of 10 million units by the time Sony and Nintendo entered the market. Microsoft later specified that goal and estimated shipments of 10 million units by the end of 2006.

    The Xbox 360 was released on November 22, 2005, in the United States and Canada; December 2, 2005, in Europe.

    The PlayStation 3 was first released on November 11, 2006 in Japan,November 17, 2006 in North America and South America,and March 23, 2007 in Europe.

    So the 360 had a 10 million head start over PS3, yet now theres only 4 million difference in console sales. Which shows that PS3 has out sold the 360 ( in the same time span ).

    360 = 40 million (as of April 23, 2010)
    PS3 = 35.7 million (as of March 31, 2010)

    Now take away the banned 360 consoles ( over 1 million banned and not able to go online ) that people traded in to shops so that they could buy new consoles to be able to play online again. Also take away the 360′s that RROD’ed on people BEFORE MS gave a 3 year warranty, which was also over 1 million in it’s 1st year of release. Plus take in consideration people that had the RROD after the 3 year warranty run out that had to re-buy a 360 console. Or the people that had a faulty Disc Drive that wasn’t given an extended warranty making them re-buy another console.Or better still the people that had their console repaired by MS due to RROD, and knowing that it will RROD again so they started trading them consoles in for a newer one.

    I still say that more people own a PS3 in their home right now than the 360.

  • Patrick Steen

    Dr. Moogle – If Sony reaches their 15 million target and the X360 stays static, the PS3 will outsell by 2011 yes. I have doubts that the 360 will remain static however.

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  • xbotman

    @LBDz

    And subtract the milions of PS3 consoles that were purchased only to watch Blu-ray movies with.

    Probably dead even, both consoles, at this point.

  • LBDz

    @ xbotman

    But people still have the consoles to watch Blu-Ray movies or to play games ? So why subtract millions.? If you look at failure rates 360 was at one time over 50%, while PS3 was only 10%.

    So if you really want to subtract numbers, take 50% off the 360 shipped figures, which leaves = 20 million, now take 10% off the PS3 sold figures which would then leaves over = 32 million.

    Even if you had half of the 50% failure rates of the 360 repaired you will still only have 30 million in total.

    But we all know figures don’t mean quality and fact is that PS3 has the better quality out the two consoles.

    I myself have bought Two 360′s in 4 years, but had to send them off 7 times in total to be repaired. RROD = 5 times E-74 Error = 1 time, Disc Drive Failure = 1 time. ( One console didn’t get repaired as the Disc Drive Failure wasn’t covered under the 3 year ex-warranty, I have Two PS3′s 1st edition and a 250 PS3 Slim model. Not once have i had any problems with them.

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  • vmorgs

    @LBDz

    OK so you really love your PS3 and thats fair enough.

    Let me start by saying that i have all 3.

    Wii= fun from time to time
    PS3 =Blu Ray and Must have games GOW,DUC 1/2
    360 = Every day

    Now a fan boy is someone who will refuse to buy/support the rival company. i am not a fan boy!

    Sony fan boy’s have been saying in forums all over the web for 4 years now “its only a matter of time” Time? Time? Lol. Who the hell has time.
    Let me ask you this my freind. if this is a socalled war (which is stupid) then who set the duration. If it was over last year of today even. WHo would have won? my point is How long does sony fan boys want???

    Ok look at it this way. if you said to a Sony CEO 6 years ago that MS will be relesing a console to compete with you and they would be ahead of you in hardware and software sales for this new super console for over 5 years, would thay have not seen this as a failure?? hmmm.

    Sony has always been trailing behind the 360 and it been 4/5 years. Now how did that happen?

    I love Games. I dont care who from. my 360 gives me the best experince and I love xbox live. How long did it take before the ps3 riped off the acheivements system and they still havent got the cross game comm right. I mean come on. And Oh you talk about the RROD. yeah ive had it . I dont even care. whats bad is that I was so pissed only becase i had to resort to playing my ps3 untill it got back from repair.

    Please please try the 360 i promise you’ll like it over the ps3.

    I hate when ever i play a ps3 game i have to do updates which take forever. on the 360 you hardly ever have to do this. and when you do it take seconds.

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